Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla

[Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:23 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

Alas, what you say may be practically correct, but is logically wrong.  All predicates must have all arguments in place.  If we omit some at the surface level, they have to be restored uniquely at some level before interpretation.  At the moment, Lojban does not have a way of doing this.  As you note, following CLL, sometime there just isn't something for that slot -- which means, of course, that we have the predicate wrong, if not the other places.  On the other hand, when there is something there, we have no clear way of saying what should go there: the obvious value (I suppose this is sorta {zo'e}) or the any value that makes the whole true (presumably {da}), but no rule as to which to pick (and {zo'e}'s use here does not fit well with its use in "definitions" of gadri). 

This is outright incorrect as it pertains to Lojban. {zi'o} exists to build new semi-nonce predicates that don't include places of existing predicates.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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