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Re: [lojban] Translating "as"





On Friday, June 14, 2013 3:56:38 PM UTC+4, gejyspa wrote:
"xekri je mlatu" is not any amount of objects.  It's a selbri.  "lo xekri je mlatu" is an object. "xekri je mlatu" is a description of  all objects that are both black and cats.

Okay. 
1. How would you describe one object that is black and white but at different time?
2. How would you describe two objects, one black and another one white?


    --gejsypa




On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:44 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:50:40 AM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM, selpa'i <sel...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> I think you can attach the "qua" tag with a {be} or {pe} to attach it to one
> of the arguments.

If you are happy with "pe" for that, then you don't need anything else:

xu zo menli poi cmene cu melbi do

"poi" would be used to restrict to a particular aspect or capacity of
an individual rather than to some particular individual(s) from a set.
(That sort of matches the etymology of "qua" too.)


Of course one can create any experimental cmavo. And we could imagine a {vo'o'oi} (selmaho NOI) that would distribute over properties of the same object rather than individuals.
But it's all philosophy (see the thread on object vs. properties vs. process languages).

But in this case we should solve the same problem for conjunctions.
What is {xekri je mlatu}? One black cat or two objects, one black and another one being a cat?
 

 

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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