[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [lojban] Re: tersmu 0.2




On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, 'John E Clifford' via lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 So, insert the definition into its proper place: {lo broda cu brode} = {ze'a noi broda cu brode}. This latter is a tautology, since {ze'a} always refers to a thing which makes the predication true.

I don't think that's the right definition for "zo'e". If zo'e made any sentence in which it appears true, it would be hard to express anything but platitudes in Lojban. You would be forced to fill every place of every predicate you use in order to say anything meaningful.

"zo'e" gets its referents from the context, but it is not necessarily something that will make the sentence in which it appears true.


Finally, a practical note. Whatever the point of all this is, dealing with MEX now is bad idea. Given that the creators of Lojban don't know how MEX works and, to a great extent, don't even know how it should work, trying to explain it now is a thankless task foreddomed to failure. Eventually, when you have a successful theory (of whatever sort you are working on) for the core of Lojban, you will be in a position to apply that theory to MEX to explain how parts of it work and to criticize and guide the development of other parts. Hopefully. But not now and not yet as a part of e\developing that theory.

I tend to agree, but since some MEX are used in the parser expansions, we either need to understand what they mean or replace them with more suitable expansions.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.