Re: [lojban] Re: other-centric UI

[Craig Daniel <teucer@pobox.com>]

2010/9/16 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Craig Daniel <teucer@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> But ".oidai" doesn't mean "somebody else feels pain," it means "I feel
>> pain, empathetically." This is normally pretty much the same, but as
>> far as I can tell it doesn't actually require anybody else to feel any
>> pain - for a somewhat crude example, imagine that you are male and you
>> see one of those naked classical statues have its junk broken off. I
>> at least am likely to cringe empathetically at the perceived
>> painfulness of the situation, even though I'd be pretty shocked to
>> learn that the statue had any actual feelings on the matter at all.
>
> Of course. That's how I understand "dai" (and "da'oi") to work. .oi
> da'oi lo roknau.

Yeah, I see no problem with "da'oi" working like that, but it does
mean it can't correspond to "pe'i la'a lo roknau cinmo lo ka cortu",
since I'm pretty sure the statue feels no such thing. Similarly, I'm
pretty sure I can .ui da'oi a dead guy, .ue da'oi somebody who hasn't
heard the news yet, and .o'a da'oi a fictional character who doesn't
exist in the same world as I do.

 - mi'e .kreig.daniyl.

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