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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Reuse request

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 54. cy: xu do'o se panzi
>> >>    by: go'i .i mi'a se panzi lo cimei noi me pa nanla .e re nixli
>> >>
>> >> I think that expands as "noi me pa nanla gi'e me re nixli".
>> >
>> > I looked at that one, and in both camxes and jboski it parses as "me (pa
>> > nanla .e re nixli)".
>>
>> Of course. And "broda ko'a .e ko'e" also parses as "broda (ko'a .e
>> ko'e)". I'm talking about what the ".e" short form expands to. It
>> always expands to a bridi connective.
>
> I don't understand what you mean by this expansion thing, especially since
> you seem to be contradicting yourself, as you previously said that ".e"
> expands to ".ije".

I should have said it expands to "ge [bridi] gi [bridi]", since in
subordinate bridi ".ije" doesn't work. Every logical connective
expands to a bridi connective.

> Is there perhaps some site I can be directed to that explains this?

I'm sure this is explained in the CLL chapter on connectives.

It's mentioned in passing but not explained.
 
>> > changing it to "... me pa nanla gi'e re nixli" (or "... je...") results
>> > in
>> > it not parsing in either, so I'm pretty sure my usage is correct in this
>> > case.
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean.
>
> Neither "me pa nanla gi'e re nixli" nor "mi pa nanla je re nixli" parses in
> camxes or jboski.

"noi ke'a me pa nanla .e re nixli
-> "noi ke'a me pa nanla gi'e _me_ re nixli"
-> "noi ge ke'a me pa nanla gi ke'a me re nixli"

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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